Right now there is a dearth of players in null, this is
nothing new, nullsec has historically been full of empty space. What is new is the lack of independent entities struggling against
each other. There are three major power groups in nullsec today, CFC, HBC and
Everyone Else. This is a player created element of the sandbox, it was not
created by CCP, though dominion sov did help propagate it. I believe this could
be solved by tweaking the HP and reinforce timers of sov structures based on
activity indexes. Now stick with me, this is going to take some explanation.
The basics
(skip this if you know the terms, hitpoints and sov mechanics)
(skip this if you know the terms, hitpoints and sov mechanics)
Currently, to siege a system with three entrances I must:
acquire and deploy at least two SBUs. I must online them, and defend them until
they online. I must then grind down any Ihub and/or stations present in the
system to their first reinforcement timers. Then I must grind them down to their
second reinforcement timers and kill the TCU. Once I have done all this, I need
to anchor my own TCU and the system is now mine.
A current Sovereignty Blockade Unit (SBU) has: 10m shield
@50% resists, armor @50% resists and structure @ 0% resists = 50m EHP.
A current Infrastructure Hub (IHub) has 192.25m EHP and two
reinforcement timers, one in shield at 25% shield (after 56.5m shield) which it
exits at 0% shield and one in armor at 50% (after 56.25m armor) which it exits
at 25% armor.
Current stations have no documented health, but I understand
them to be similar if not exact clones of IHub EHP and reinforcement.
A current Territory Control Unit (TCU) has: 10m shields,
armor and structure at 0% resists, so 30m EHP.
To take a three gate station system, my forces and I need to
destroy 320.76m EHP. (145.38 for the Ihub, 145.38 for the Station and 30m for
the TCU)
To defend a three gate station system, my forces and I need
to destroy 100m EHP (50m EHP for each SBU). This assumes that I don’t want to
clean up the 3rd that they invariably dropped as well.
For comparison’s sake, lets talk about some structures more
people have had dealings with. A small Caldari control tower, and a Player
Owned Customs Office (POCO).
A small Caldari control tower has 14.5m raw HP, if you are
shooting it with EM it has 0% base resists. It has a reinforcement timer at 25%
shields that is no longer than 41.5 hours and it exits that reinforcement timer
at 25% shields.
A POCO has 14.5m raw HP and no resists. It reinforces at 25%
shields and exits reinforce at 0% shields, saving you 2.5m EHP of grinding. It’s
reinforcement timer is variable, but averages ~36 hours, and is always under
48.
Dealing with all that EHP
Now that you have an idea of just how much EHP we’re talking
about. Lets explain what it takes to reliably chew through all of that. Your
average DPS battleship or Tier 3 BC does 1k DPS. So to chew through those 320.76m
EHP with 30 of them is going to take you ~3 hours (178 minutes). If you have 100, you’ll get it done in just
under an hour (53.5 minutes).
Let us say you’re fielding capitals. Carriers average 1k DPS
(Thanatos get as high as 1.75k) and dreads average 10k DPS (Moros get as high
as 15k), but are stuck for 5 minutes at a time. With 10 dreads, it’ll take just
under an hour (53.5 minutes). With twenty, it’ll take about thirty minutes
(26.7). Bare in mind, those dreads are stuck, so you are very likely going to
lose them. You can use supers though, and that will drastically improve your
survivability, but instead of 30b in dreads, you must field 300 billion in
supers (average nyx comes to 30b between hull and gear).
Not too bad right? Sadly all those lovely numbers assume you
are doing it in one sitting. In reality it takes you at least 2 separate operations,
so add on 30 to 40 minutes of form up time and however long it takes you to get
there and back. This means that each of those operations is a 3 hour grueling
structure grind operation, and between each of those operations you have to
wait on average 36 hours for a reinforcement timer. This means that to take a system
it takes at least a 4 days! It can get worse though, you might be unable or
unwilling to take the station and the ihub down at the same time, so now it
takes FOUR separate operations. Those four will be slightly faster, but still
be in the neighborhood of two hours each, and then it can take up to a full
week to take the system!
So, in summation, taking a three gate station system
requires between six and eight hours of fleet ops over the course of about a week
and each op must have either 100 DPS Tier 3 BCs or BS, 10 dreads on a suicide
path, or 300 billion isk in supers. This is for a single system, and it
discounts passive regen on all the shields as well as the deployment and
onlining time of SBUs (3 hours).
This massive block of EHP and time is why we have the super
coalitions we have today. The numbers are required to play the game. If we want
to see new groups in nullsec duking it out, these EHP bricks need to change.
Desired Effects
I would like to make it so that territory is held based on activity
level more than the owner’s capacity to project force. That is, if a sov owner
is out attacking some other alliance, I would like a smaller group to be able
to come in and take a few of that owner’s outlying systems. Think of it as the barbarians
versus the Romans and the fall of the Roman empire. This is currently
impossible because it takes a week and 8 hours of fleet operations to take a
single system, let alone a constellation.
Undesired Effects
A return to station ping-pong (http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=695)
The ability to rapidly sack another group’s capital
The Proposal
To this end, I propose that the current HP for all sov
structures, excluding SBUs, be tied to military and industrial indexes. Each
structure would then have it's base hitpoints reduced to 10% of it's current
hitpoints. For each index level, excluding strategic, the structure gains 10%
of it's hit points under the current system. Should the structure have had a
reinforcement timer under the current system, it will gain one reinforcement
(based on stront, not some timer) for each index at lvl 5, excluding strategic.
Under the proposed system, an ihub in a solar system with
military and industrial at 0 will have just under 19.25 million EHP and no
reinforcement timer. An ihub with industry 5 and military 0 will have one
reinforcement timer and roughly 115.5m EHP.
An ihub in a military and industry lvl 5 system will have 211.75m EHP
and two reinforcement timers. An unused system with a TCU and Ihub will have
23.25m EHP and no reinforcement timer. A
heavily used capital system with a station, ihub and TCU will have 456.5m EHP
along with 2 reinforcement timers for the station and 2 for the Ihub.
Outcome Analysis
The proposed system will make it HARDER to take an extremely
active system by INCREASING the EHP of
sov structures in it. However it will make a lesser or unused system
substantially easier to take. This means that active areas of space, such as a
capital systems will be much harder to take. Active ratting or mining systems will
be noticeably easier to take while still being difficult, and unused systems
will be substantially easier to take. In essence, it will lower the barriers to nullsec by opening up guerilla warfare as a viable tactic.
By scaling EHP and reinforcement timers in this manner, we
create lesser controlled border zones between the activity hubs of large
alliances. This will fundamentally alter the status quo of sov holding
alliances as new vulnerabilities open up all across their space. Small groups
will be able to border skirmish with larger alliances and potentially hold
space despite their smaller size.
To be precise, that 30 man BC/BS gang from earlier that would've taken just under 3 hours to take a system, can now take an unused system
in twelve and a half minutes. They must still place and wait for SBUs to online (~3 hours), so it doesn't allow for pure harassment, but it definitely opens the door for smaller groups.
But what about Moons?
Those of you who are in the know realize that this change does nothing to help the young alliance acquire moons. That is O.K. The goal of this proposal is to get people into nullsec. When there are more people in nullsec, those new people will find a way to acquire moons.
But what about Moons?
Those of you who are in the know realize that this change does nothing to help the young alliance acquire moons. That is O.K. The goal of this proposal is to get people into nullsec. When there are more people in nullsec, those new people will find a way to acquire moons.
Possible Supporting Changes
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It may be necessary to reduce the strategic
index level for cyno jammers to support younger groups holding space.
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It may be necessary to tweak the activity levels
required to move indexes up or down to better balance EHP distribution across a
space empire.
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It may be necessary to increase anomaly spawns
to increase player density per system to allow for large alliances to
concentrate force.
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